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Ken Casey live, March 2003

Dropkick Murphys
Blue Collar Music

By Matt Bettinelli-Olpin

The DKM Cocktail:
2 oz. Punk Rock
1 oz. Traditional Irish Folk
A splash of the Pogues

Enjoy cautiously. This concoction will have you sweating like a stray dog, shouting ‘til your throat burns, and dancing around like a punk rock prom queen. Why? Because these days, Dropkick Murphys are hands-down the strongest drink in town.

Since they formed back in ‘96, the seven-piece, whose fourth LP, Blackout (Hellcat), was released in the summer of ‘03, have stomped their way around the globe on something like a musical crusade. Along the way, they’ve left their indelible boot print on a generation of bruised and willing ears with their splendid mess of styles and influences.

A DKM show is no normal show--it’s an experience. They wear their blue collars high, sing with pride, and scream with urgency. Their songs encapsulate the working class voice, and their fans accentuate the strength of unity. According to their web site (www.dropkickmurphys.com) , “In the true spirit of punk rock we view the band and the audience as one in the same; in other words, our stage and our microphone are yours.” The band is the audience. The audience is the band.

So grab a drink, fight your way to the mic, and let your throat burn, burn, burn.


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The Dropkick Murphys
at La Boule Noir, Paris, France - February 27, 2004
Photo by cccoin

Matt Bettinelli-Olpin: What role does the audience play?

Ken Casey (vocals): Our show is very dependent on crowd participation because we feed off the crowd. They give their energy to us and we give it back to them. That’s why we always wanted to do a live record; because the live feel and the feeding off the crowd is the one thing we always kind of missed when we’re in the studio. The live record captured that.

Matt: When did you decide you want to be in a band?

Ken: I always wanted to be in a band, the same way I always wanted to be a professional hockey player or baseball player. It was just another thing that was cool to do, but never thought I was eligible for, talent-wise. It took me a long time to figure out you don’t need much talent to do this. I wish I’d figured that out earlier. I started to go to shows in the early ‘80s, the Boston hardcore scene, with bands like Gang Green and DYS, and the seeing punk hardcore shows in a small club, up close, made me want to be a part of it.

Matt: Are you hoping someone going to your shows feel the same? How would you hope someone would react to your music?

Ken: It’d be cool if they decided they wanted to start a band after hearing us, but maybe we’re just an hour and half that some one can come blow off steam and forget about the rest of their life and work and school and all that crap, and just have a good time and not worry about the rest of the outside world. If it’s nothing more than that, that’s cool, too.

Matt: Is your music a product of your environment…of Boston?

Ken: I definitely think so. I don’t think what we do could come out of many other places. We come from a unique place--not to say there aren’t other places like it and not to say people from other places can’t identify with it, but it’s just a unique mix of societies. We’re an American band, but we’re from a place of heavy Irish descent and that obviously is a big part of our upbringing and our introduction to Irish music. It’s that mix of that life with kids that were into American punk and hardcore. A band from Ireland or another part of the country might just sound like an Irish band, but it’s that unique mix of the two lifestyles we were brought up in, going to American hardcore shows, but living in neighborhoods where you couldn’t escape the influence of Irish music.

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These folks don't look like they're leavin' anytime soon.
At Roseland in NYC. February 5, 2004.

Matt: Do the blurred genres ever cause issues booking shows?

Ken: We’ve played family style Irish festivals with people sitting on picnic blankets, and we’ve played with the most brutal hardcore bands and everything in between.

Matt: How was the increased radio play changed the band or the shows?

Ken: It just kind of happened. We’ve really only had radio play in about four cities in the country, so… we have such a solid fan base that it really doesn’t seem to have changed it. Maybe in L.A., we might play to 1,000 kids, and maybe there are 200 more now. That core audience is still the most present. But what happens with us, the kids who hear it on the radio and might just know the one song, they come along and see how passionate the rest of the audience is, and it makes them want to go out and buy the old records and really be into the band.

Matt: Any problems with longtime fans that feel band ownership and get bitter?

Ken: From the first time we sold out a club that holds 400 kids and went on to play the next biggest club that holds 600 kids, we already had people saying ‘I don’t like ‘em anymore, they’re too big, they sold out, they’re not my band.’ Every band that’s getting a larger audience has that element that leaves them, it’s unfortunate. I know for us, we stayed true to what we do. If someone wants to not listen to the band, I don’t think we’ve given them any reason, but that’s up to the listener to decide.

Matt: What’s the role of politics within the band? Personal, social, or otherwise? Is there a collective belief structure that holds the band together?

Ken: We come the background we come from, and we definitely write a lot of songs that deal with social issues and blue collar upbringing and union politics and that’s evident in our songs, but we try to leave it that. Nobody likes a preacher, so we just write songs about what we believe in and you don’t have to agree with us to listen to the music.

Matt: What role does the punk rock community play as an alternative to mainstream music and mainstream media? Is it just another outlet?

Ken: It’s an alternative. It’s like, ‘mainstream music is shoving crap down my throat, I don’t want to buy into it.’ This gives people another avenue to find out about bands and find out about music.

Matt: Where does the name come from?

Ken: Dropkick Murphy’s was an old rehab place in Boston in the ‘40s and ‘50s, before fancy detoxes, where drunks would go to clean up. It seemed appropriate.

Matt: Is alcohol as big a part of the band as it appears?

Ken: Not really. That name was taken, partly because we play drinking songs, but also it’s Boston history. But for every song we’ve wrote about the pleasures of alcohol, if you really read the lyrics, a lot of the songs are also talking about the negative pitfalls of alcohol. But with the nature of drinking music, a lot of times you can write a song that’s saying negative things about alcohol, but people still take it like ‘yeah, I’m on a sinking ship, but I’m gonna enjoy it while I’m going down.’ Even our most dreary, negative song about drinking is sung as if it’s a party song. That’s the irony there.

Matt: How’d you get to be one of the few bands to record a song with unpublished Woody Guthrie lyrics (“Gonna Be A Blackout Tonight,” on Blackout)?

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"Matt: Is alcohol as big a part of the band as it appears?
Ken: Not really."

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Ken: Woody Guthrie’s grandson is a punk rocker and he told his mother, who was in charge of the archives, that we share some of her father’s beliefs and that we might be a good band to take a stab at recording some of his lyrics. He has thousands and thousands of pages of lyrics that have never been put to music, that have never sent the light of day. A lot of people have never even read them, but I got the opportunity to go down to the archive in New York one day and spend about eight hours reading thousands of pages of lyrics. That day was the highlight of being in the band, for me. Picking up these original pieces of paper, sixty years old, and reading these pieces of history was pretty incredible.

Matt: What’s the hardest part of being in the band?

Ken: Being away from home, definitely. We’re all unbelievably grateful for the opportunity, we’re also torn, like ‘what the hell is going on? Why am I all over the world, when I’m used to being home?’ We’ve been given an incredible gift and opportunity, but at the same time, you’re saying ‘my god, the Red Sox are playing the Yankees and I have tickets and I’m not there and all my friends are there. And I want to be home with my wife and daughter.’  It’s definitely two different worlds colliding.

Matt: What the best part?

Ken: Playing live. It’s what we strive to do and that’s what we enjoy the most, however, that’s what takes us away from home. You’re talking about a guy who never really got out of Massachusetts, and now I’ve been to four or five different continents playing music, so I’m extremely grateful for that.

Matt: What are your hopes for the band?

Ken: We’ve already achieved every goal and then some. I’d like to just be able to attain longevity. That’s what separates the band from being memorable to just another band. Can you continue doing what you’re doing? We’re not looking for any highs or any lows. I don’t want to sell five million records. I just want to keep the loyal fan base we have now happy and keep making the music the music that makes them want to come to the shows and take part.

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