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The Gossip Gets Dangerous |
| Brace Paine | |
| Interviewed by Erin Broadley |
| Punk at its best is loud, chaotic, and as the
Gossips guitarist Brace Paine insists, a bit dangerous. Its this brazen
attitude, with a sound to match, which earned the Olympia, Washington-based trio
(completed by singer Beth Ditto and drummer Kathy Mendonca) a spot on Kill Rock
Stars artist roster three years ago alongside such media and fan favorites as Bikini
Kill and Sleater-Kinney. Critics have dubbed the Gossips insurgent sound everything
from gospel punk to bluesy garage rock, yet its the bands unpredictability
that makes each record indefinable and each live show unique. The Gossips latest
release, Movement, marks the bands second full-length album following its
debut Thats Not What I Heard (2000) and the EP Arkansas Heat (2002); a
live album, Undead in NYC, is also available on Dim Mak Records. |
Erin
Broadley: How long has the band been playing together? Brace
Paine: Weve been playing together probably three years as the Gossip. Erin: Did you grow up playing music? Brace: Yeah, we all did. I mean, we never had
lessons or anything, but Beth grew up singing in church. I got a guitar when I was
sixteen. Were definitely all self-taught. Erin: I read that during the recording process,
you pay a lot of attention specifically to song selection. Brace: Yeah. For us, when it comes to writing
songs [in the studio], if were working with someone who we really appreciate, who
has worked with other bands we like and makes us feel really comfortable, its easy
for us to concentrate on the songs. Were really perfectionists about which songs we
select. All the songs we selected [for Movement] we are really pleased with.
Wed rather have a short record than a long record full of crappy songs that we hate.
Erin: So you dont believe in so-called
filler tracks? Brace: Exactly. We dumped hundreds of songs
because we didnt like them. |
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Erin: As far as constructing songs for a record,
do you all sit down and write together or is it more an individual thing? Brace: Its a group effort, definitely. I
write guitar parts, Kathy writes drum parts and Beth writes melodies, but we help each
other too. Well help Beth with a certain melody and stuff like that. Erin: How long were you in the studio for Movement? Brace: Movement was recorded in three days
in Seattle by this guy named John Goodmanson. He recorded all the Sleater-Kinney records,
Wu Tang, Hanson, Nirvana. Hes all over the map. Hes a punk. It worked
out really well. Erin: Considering you only recorded for three
days, Im assuming that, as a band, you figure out a majority of your music in
advance so that when youre on studio time all you have to do is lay it down. Brace: Actually, were really into improv. I
think thats something we gathered from the experimental music side of us. That
inspired this record a lot. Kathy and Beth have been really open to it lately, because
Im always listening to stuff like John Cage or free jazz or something like that. Two
of the songs on the record, Fire/sign and All My Days, were all
done from an improv session that lasted like five minutes. Musically, those songs were
pumped out in a total of ten minutes. Erin: Is spontaneity something you feel is
characteristic of all your records so far? Brace: Our new record is much different than [our
earlier efforts like Arkansas Heat]. The thing I really like about being in this
band and playing music with these girls is that theyre very into danger and doing
things that wouldnt be perceived as easy. On the new record, theres lots of
wrong notes and feedback. Were really interested in that. We dont want to be a
rock band, you know? We want to do something thats considered dangerous.
After seeing so many bands go into the studio and have to get everything right, its
nice not to [do that]. I know bands that
have spent three months on their record, and then you actually listen to it and
youre like, You spent three months on this? They hit all the
right notes but theres nothing interesting, nothing dangerous about it. Especially
these days with this raw rocker vibe or whatever. The music that people are
saying is raw and dangerous isnt. Like the White Stripes
to me thats not
dangerous. The Hives, the Strokes
thats not raw, thats not dangerous. We
get lumped into that scene a lot, but I dont know why. Especially if you see us
live--its totally different. We want to be a dangerous band. We want to be a band
that can never be on MTV because people would be too offended by what we do live or what
we would say. To us, the mainstream world doesnt even exist. We dont
care about those bands. People want us to go in that direction really badly just because
they want a new raw rock band. But we just dont want to be a part of
that. Wed rather play with cool, noisy girl punk bands that are interesting, weird
and experimental. |
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Erin: So you feel that there is industry pressure
to align yourselves with this raw rock scene? Brace: Not pressure but you can definitely tell,
especially from the press, that people want us to say certain things and want us to be
part of that and dont seem to have a real interest in us. Weve only been a
band for three years. I mean, thats nothing. The press just wants us to roll with a
stupid, thoughtless, non-political, non-interesting, sexy rock band thing and thats
just not us at all. We just play the music that comes to us naturally. We dont set
out to make it any certain sound. Three years ago, we were making music when this whole
raw rock thing wasnt popular at all and people didnt know what to compare us
to. They would compare us to Bikini Kill or the Cramps or Pussy Galore, which is fine to
me because those are awesome bands that are really interesting and did cool things. But
when this raw rock revival thing started people lumped us in with the Yeah
Yeah Yeahs and the White Stripes. Weve played tons of shows with those bands, and
theyre really nice people, but we dont feel connected to that scene. Erin: Genres aside then, how would you prefer your
music to be described? Erin: Musically, do you feel more at home in the
studio or live? |
Brace: Definitely live. Our new record does us
justice as a live band just because we got into that vibe when we were recording it. To us
its all about the performance. People pay money to see bands believe in themselves.
We do what we do and we want it to be a great time for people. If you pay eight dollars to
see a band, it should be loud and fun and chaotic and noisy. To me thats the idea of
a good show. Thats what we want to put forth. Something really emotional and driving
but fun, with people dancing and stuff. I would also say were a political band but I
think a lot of times our politics reflect the [sort of] people [that] we want to come [to
our shows]. |
We want weirdos and jocks and normal people and art kids to come to our shows and all have fun together for one night. For us, thats really exciting. We want people to come together and dance. We want to move and we want to touch the audience and break down that barrier. If you look at old punk videos with the Ramones, the Germs, Minor Threat and bands like that, there was no audience, no wall or barrier. Every one was together and there was this unity. We really want to recreate that. Thats inspiring to us. Even though now were playing bigger venues, we still can connect with kids in that way, whether its from jumping off the stage and playing on the ground or talking to people and having them come on stage. Its just sending out the vibe that we know theyre there and that we want them to be a part of this. Erin: You mentioned your politics. Can you talk
about that more? Brace: We arent very specific in our politics because we dont want anyone to feel left out. But we are definitely progressive people, feminists and artists. Were progressive-minded people that want like-minded people to enjoy our shows. We all grew up in a small town and all got picked on constantly for being weird or not wanting to play sports and stuff like that. It made a huge impact on our lives. I mean, we grew up in Arkansas in a town with 10,000 people. We just never felt part of that place. Unity and community definitely play a part in our politics. We want other kids who left out or felt weird growing up to come to our shows. We really want to impact the kids and have them come see something or hear something that really affects them. We want them to come meet us and know that there are other people out there as weird and bizarre as they are. |